Luk 20:46Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts; Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

Col 2:8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Mat 21:42Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

There have always been Bible based Christians all through the known world since the time of the apostles who never held allegiance to first the Greek and Eastern orthodox churches, and then much later the Roman Catholic church. Calvin and Luther (who were heretics in their own right in many of their beliefs) also persecuted many of these bible based Christians in Europe as first did the Roman Catholics. Those who serve the true Christ hold no allegiance to any man, woman, pope or demon. The history of Bible based Christianity is not your Romanist propaganda. Evangelists went throughout africa and asia for 1000 years before your Pope Leo was excommunicated from the Eastern Orthodox churches to then start what became the Roman Catholic church and its papal system which seduces people from the True Christ into false gospels such as you have been preaching here shamelessly.

zhrmz ``You simply do not believe in the intercession of Mary .....You shall suffer for this when God says enter hell in your face.``

``Go to hell leigion of the devil``

``I am a son of JESUS and MARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O HOW POWERFUL ARE THERE NAMES!!!``

``The Jews prayed to the dead prophets``

``Maybee your fuking church is the counterfeit one!!!!!!!Your bloodsoaked,demonic,satanic church was founded by the protestant reformers``

``The bible says Mary is "FULL OF GRACE " both you and i are not full of grace.``

If you only knew the eternal blackness of darkness forever that you are facing if you don`t repent to the True Christ from your demonic false gospel and false christ.

zhrmz you still do not give me references in the Biblical texts, you still quote gnosticism.

maxtube22 I apologise for the misunderstanding I am actually in agreement with you.

Jesus Christ appointed leaders to his church so that his church will last till the end of time . If the church dose not have any leaders the church will not last till the end of time .

Maxtube22 ,Rejecting Mary's motherhood of the human raceis rejecting your brotherhood with her son, JESUS CHRIST .

Jesus entrusted Mary to the whole human race in the person of St . John . It is true that the Church is the bride of Jesus Christ ,but bride in a sence that the church and Christ aer one and united .The church is the Mystical body of Christ . If Mary is not our mother then we are not Christ's brothers and sisters .Proof that the church and Jesus are united is when Paul heared Christ's Voice saying Why do you persecute me?.Jesus did not say why do you persecute my followers but why do you persecute me .We are the church ,we are Christ's mystical body on earth .And scince the church is the mystical body of Christ ,and Mary is the mother of Jesus ,it is fitting to call her MOTHER OF THE CHURCH .

zhrmz you said "If we are all brothers and sisters in Christ ,then Mary must be our mother .And scince we are brothers and sisters in Christ ,Mary IS our mother .Christ wanted ALL of us to be his brothers and sisters that is why he gave Mary to be our mother .God is our father , Mary is our mother ."

Here is the problem, what you are saying here is not found anywere in the entire Bible, how can mary be our mother when his Church is the Bride and Christ is the groom, mary could not possibly be the mother, when she was living she was part of the Bride of Christ, as I am part of the Bride of Christ.

You stated "Christ wanted ALL of us to be his brothers and sisters that is why he gave Mary to be our mother .God is our father , Mary is our mother ." Scripture Please ????? you show me no biblical bases for this argument.

zhrmz You asked me "Can you see Jesus Christ physically ?" this is a valid question, what did Jesus say about those who had faith but did not see him physically, "John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

Do you doubt Christ because you have not seen him, why do you need some physical aperition, are you of little faith ?? You need to see, to believe.

And Jesus being God is their nothing that God cannot do, then why cant He be the head visible and invisible ??

Christ was also their before anything was created.