yes seriously. alex wade hit me in the head when he played in a local band Red Winter Dying here in knoxville a few years ago. hit me with his new ESP. and phil is an awesome guy. all of them in the band are fairly short. well, at least when brandon was in it, 5 out of 6 of them were like, under 5'6''. now that zach replaced brandon, it's only 4 out of 6 haha. i still see brandon around knoxville a decent amount. i miss seeing those guys. it's weird because now i just feel like any other fan. when i use to be friends with them. you get this irritated feeling when someone says how much they love whitechapel, because you were there to see how they became big. i was there.